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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Qaboos, what gives the FMF teams the sense of entitlement to picture perfect fields?  maybe you&#039;ve never been to Mexico or the Mexican neighborhoods in almost every major city in the US?  Every field I&#039;ve played on in Mexico or in the local latino rec leagues in Houston is a safety hazard.  Most of the fields are dirt and the little grass there is usually grows in clumps (anyone remember Memorial Park in the late 80s?).  I bet most of the FMF players grew up playing on dirt fields while most of the US MLS players grew up playing on the private fields of the youth premier leagues.  In any case, the US players would make a better case that their game requires manicured fields than the Mexican players.  Play the game on dirt, barefoot, and with a vinyl ball and I bet Pachuca beats us by a dozen goals.  Summary: the whining about the fields is just an excuse for not coming home with a resounding victory over the amateur americanos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qaboos, what gives the FMF teams the sense of entitlement to picture perfect fields?  maybe you&#8217;ve never been to Mexico or the Mexican neighborhoods in almost every major city in the US?  Every field I&#8217;ve played on in Mexico or in the local latino rec leagues in Houston is a safety hazard.  Most of the fields are dirt and the little grass there is usually grows in clumps (anyone remember Memorial Park in the late 80s?).  I bet most of the FMF players grew up playing on dirt fields while most of the US MLS players grew up playing on the private fields of the youth premier leagues.  In any case, the US players would make a better case that their game requires manicured fields than the Mexican players.  Play the game on dirt, barefoot, and with a vinyl ball and I bet Pachuca beats us by a dozen goals.  Summary: the whining about the fields is just an excuse for not coming home with a resounding victory over the amateur americanos.</p>
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		<title>By: mario</title>
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		<dc:creator>mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reality is that the FMF teams are acting the exact way that they acted when they first started participating in the libertadores and copa sud americana cups.  Every year was the same excuse, they dont let us practice, they the refs are biased, once they started winning the crying stopped.  The owners threatened not to come back, $$$ keeps them coming back to international events in south america,  the same will hold true with coming to USA.  I beleive most of the teams that participate in the international cups are the teams in mexico with the most history and tradition, that is why they are invited to attract fans and $$$.  These &quot;elite teams&quot; are pampered by the media, FMF, not to mention The Giant televisa and TV Azteca, and why not the refs in mexico. so when these teams leave the country and they dont receive that treatment they are acustomed to in Mexico they cry like little pampered kids.  I didn&#039;t hear no cry from pachuca on the way to the bank last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality is that the FMF teams are acting the exact way that they acted when they first started participating in the libertadores and copa sud americana cups.  Every year was the same excuse, they dont let us practice, they the refs are biased, once they started winning the crying stopped.  The owners threatened not to come back, $$$ keeps them coming back to international events in south america,  the same will hold true with coming to USA.  I beleive most of the teams that participate in the international cups are the teams in mexico with the most history and tradition, that is why they are invited to attract fans and $$$.  These &#8220;elite teams&#8221; are pampered by the media, FMF, not to mention The Giant televisa and TV Azteca, and why not the refs in mexico. so when these teams leave the country and they dont receive that treatment they are acustomed to in Mexico they cry like little pampered kids.  I didn&#8217;t hear no cry from pachuca on the way to the bank last year.</p>
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		<title>By: mario</title>
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		<dc:creator>mario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reality is that the FMF teams are acting the exact way that they acted when they first started participating in the libertadores and copa sud americana cups.  Every year was the same excuse, they dont let us practice, they the refs are biased, once they started winning the crying stopped.  The owners threatened not to come back, $$$ keeps them coming back to international events in south america,  the same will hold true with coming to USA.  I beleive most of the teams that participate in the international cups are the teams in mexico with the most history and tradition, that is why they are invited to attract fans and $$$.  These \</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reality is that the FMF teams are acting the exact way that they acted when they first started participating in the libertadores and copa sud americana cups.  Every year was the same excuse, they dont let us practice, they the refs are biased, once they started winning the crying stopped.  The owners threatened not to come back, $$$ keeps them coming back to international events in south america,  the same will hold true with coming to USA.  I beleive most of the teams that participate in the international cups are the teams in mexico with the most history and tradition, that is why they are invited to attract fans and $$$.  These \</p>
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		<title>By: Moises V.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moises V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 05:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the passion brought by Superliga, but I have to say this...I don&#039;t think this tournament is going to be back next year...

Every FMF team has now complained, and pretty much stated that they will no longer attend this tournament.  FMF has power and SUM and Superliga officials NEED the mexican teams to attend the tournament.  If they go back inviting teams like last year, the success will no longer be the same.  

I heard all the complaints by Pachuca today, and I&#039;d have to give them the fact that the ref was horrible, all the refs actually.  He made everyone in Pachuca and FMF think that the Dynamo were &quot;pre-destined&quot; to win this match, even if Im 99.9% sure that&#039;s not the case here.  Actually Im a little upset at the fact that this ref created an excuse for the mexican teams to continue their lack of respect for the Dynamo, or maybe not the Dynamo but MLS in general.

On the other hand, it really doesn&#039;t matter, the fact is that all the &quot;BIG&quot; teams are needed for Superliga to work.  America has denied ever participating in it.  Chivas stated they probably won&#039;t do so either.  Pachuca&#039;s president was very upset as well, the only team that really shouldn&#039;t complain is Atlante.  They just didn&#039;t bring it against the Revs tonite despite the ref loosing control of the match as well.  

If all these teams get together and complain at the same time that means Superliga is probably done, since these teams have lots of POWER down in Mexico.  They have the three most powerful club presidents in the Mexican league in Azcarraga, Vergara and Martinez.

hint for SUM and Superliga officials:
You might need to start changing some of the tiebreakers, add a home-away format, and please get some better refs...somewhere...spend a little and get maybe someone from Conmebol, since this is not a Concacaf tourney...

and hint for the Mexican league teams:
MLS has grown, a lot, so stop thinking you can come up here put on a &quot;big team&quot; jersey and win by just showing up.  Stop the complaining, fields, refs, rules are bad for all teams not just FMF teams...

peace :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the passion brought by Superliga, but I have to say this&#8230;I don&#8217;t think this tournament is going to be back next year&#8230;</p>
<p>Every FMF team has now complained, and pretty much stated that they will no longer attend this tournament.  FMF has power and SUM and Superliga officials NEED the mexican teams to attend the tournament.  If they go back inviting teams like last year, the success will no longer be the same.  </p>
<p>I heard all the complaints by Pachuca today, and I&#8217;d have to give them the fact that the ref was horrible, all the refs actually.  He made everyone in Pachuca and FMF think that the Dynamo were &#8220;pre-destined&#8221; to win this match, even if Im 99.9% sure that&#8217;s not the case here.  Actually Im a little upset at the fact that this ref created an excuse for the mexican teams to continue their lack of respect for the Dynamo, or maybe not the Dynamo but MLS in general.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it really doesn&#8217;t matter, the fact is that all the &#8220;BIG&#8221; teams are needed for Superliga to work.  America has denied ever participating in it.  Chivas stated they probably won&#8217;t do so either.  Pachuca&#8217;s president was very upset as well, the only team that really shouldn&#8217;t complain is Atlante.  They just didn&#8217;t bring it against the Revs tonite despite the ref loosing control of the match as well.  </p>
<p>If all these teams get together and complain at the same time that means Superliga is probably done, since these teams have lots of POWER down in Mexico.  They have the three most powerful club presidents in the Mexican league in Azcarraga, Vergara and Martinez.</p>
<p>hint for SUM and Superliga officials:<br />
You might need to start changing some of the tiebreakers, add a home-away format, and please get some better refs&#8230;somewhere&#8230;spend a little and get maybe someone from Conmebol, since this is not a Concacaf tourney&#8230;</p>
<p>and hint for the Mexican league teams:<br />
MLS has grown, a lot, so stop thinking you can come up here put on a &#8220;big team&#8221; jersey and win by just showing up.  Stop the complaining, fields, refs, rules are bad for all teams not just FMF teams&#8230;</p>
<p>peace <img src='http://www.glenndavissoccer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matt Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quabos, I don&#039;t know what game you were watching, but your clearly are delusional.  In no way did the Dynamos provoke or attack anyone on Pachuca. What I saw was at the end of the game the Pachuca players were the ones truly making the classless act.  I saw them push and shove and grab people by the neck. I saw them come over the the Dynamo&#039;s bench and try to provoke a fight.  Instead of offering congratulations they showed what punks they are. Your comments show you to be of the same ilk - you think that Mexican soccer teams are better than American teams, not by skill and effort, but by some right you think you were giving.  It is attitudes like what you and Pachuca have shown that make the victory that much sweeter.  There will be many more wins like last night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quabos, I don&#8217;t know what game you were watching, but your clearly are delusional.  In no way did the Dynamos provoke or attack anyone on Pachuca. What I saw was at the end of the game the Pachuca players were the ones truly making the classless act.  I saw them push and shove and grab people by the neck. I saw them come over the the Dynamo&#8217;s bench and try to provoke a fight.  Instead of offering congratulations they showed what punks they are. Your comments show you to be of the same ilk &#8211; you think that Mexican soccer teams are better than American teams, not by skill and effort, but by some right you think you were giving.  It is attitudes like what you and Pachuca have shown that make the victory that much sweeter.  There will be many more wins like last night.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant hold my tounge anymore Glenn. After watching the match lastnight live and then watching the Atlante v NE match i am sold that FMF teams are horrible people and down right sore losers! 5 red card tonight all in the last 5 minutes most of the for reckless fouls or violent conduct! The Staff member that basically assaulted Albright at the end of the match show be brought in on charges seeing that he pretty much made an atempted to poke his eye out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant hold my tounge anymore Glenn. After watching the match lastnight live and then watching the Atlante v NE match i am sold that FMF teams are horrible people and down right sore losers! 5 red card tonight all in the last 5 minutes most of the for reckless fouls or violent conduct! The Staff member that basically assaulted Albright at the end of the match show be brought in on charges seeing that he pretty much made an atempted to poke his eye out.</p>
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		<title>By: socmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>socmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Match!  I was most proud of Corey Ashe.  Last year, with the early red card and playing a man down, Houston hung tough.  I thought they had it, when Corey gets knocked over by a Pachuca player and kicks out at him right in front of everyone.  Then, he gets the red and the rest was history.  This time, he scores a great goal after bringing great energy to the game.  Then, when he was knocked out by a Pachuca player this time, he just got up and walked away!  Regardless of what he may or may not have said to the Pachuca bench, that is infinitely better than grabbing someone by the throat.

BTW, Glenn, why don&#039;t the Telefutura ever interview the MLS team players?  I&#039;m quite sure there is enough passable Spanish on the Houston side.  If not, English broadcasters seem to have no trouble interviewing Blanco, Guevara, etc through interpreters.

Great call of the match as well, Glenn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Match!  I was most proud of Corey Ashe.  Last year, with the early red card and playing a man down, Houston hung tough.  I thought they had it, when Corey gets knocked over by a Pachuca player and kicks out at him right in front of everyone.  Then, he gets the red and the rest was history.  This time, he scores a great goal after bringing great energy to the game.  Then, when he was knocked out by a Pachuca player this time, he just got up and walked away!  Regardless of what he may or may not have said to the Pachuca bench, that is infinitely better than grabbing someone by the throat.</p>
<p>BTW, Glenn, why don&#8217;t the Telefutura ever interview the MLS team players?  I&#8217;m quite sure there is enough passable Spanish on the Houston side.  If not, English broadcasters seem to have no trouble interviewing Blanco, Guevara, etc through interpreters.</p>
<p>Great call of the match as well, Glenn.</p>
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		<title>By: Chucho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chucho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously - the Quaboos comment was pretty lame about Houston&#039;s character. Think of all the MLS games in the season with rough tackles, fouls, some slight pushing. Rarely, if ever, does it degenerate into what Pachuca instigated last night. If his assertion that Houston&#039;s character was an issue, then we would expect to see similar behavior to last night in several of Houston&#039;s MLS games....but we never have. Clearly, the issue lies with Pachuca, the poor sportsmanship of some of their players and coaches, and this bizarre cultural issue (not just in Mexico, but in European football, too) where coaches and players whine about refereeing. Seriously -- look at US football, basketball, etc. Any coach or player that blames the ref is usually (a) fined (b) criticized by the press, and (c) generally thought of as a complete, whining baby. Yet look at any post-match comments from a Mourinhno, or from a losing SuperLiga side, and you see this pathetic ref-blaming. I don&#039;t disagree that the refs were bad, but C&#039;MON! Life&#039;s not fair. Grow a pair and get on with it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously &#8211; the Quaboos comment was pretty lame about Houston&#8217;s character. Think of all the MLS games in the season with rough tackles, fouls, some slight pushing. Rarely, if ever, does it degenerate into what Pachuca instigated last night. If his assertion that Houston&#8217;s character was an issue, then we would expect to see similar behavior to last night in several of Houston&#8217;s MLS games&#8230;.but we never have. Clearly, the issue lies with Pachuca, the poor sportsmanship of some of their players and coaches, and this bizarre cultural issue (not just in Mexico, but in European football, too) where coaches and players whine about refereeing. Seriously &#8212; look at US football, basketball, etc. Any coach or player that blames the ref is usually (a) fined (b) criticized by the press, and (c) generally thought of as a complete, whining baby. Yet look at any post-match comments from a Mourinhno, or from a losing SuperLiga side, and you see this pathetic ref-blaming. I don&#8217;t disagree that the refs were bad, but C&#8217;MON! Life&#8217;s not fair. Grow a pair and get on with it!</p>
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		<title>By: CeltTexan</title>
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		<dc:creator>CeltTexan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good comments amigo mio.  I look forward to hearing Dom&#039;s reactions after the big victory.

Glenn, the North End was a freakin&#039; moshpit buddy!  We brought the noise and never stopped singing for the 90 minutes. Rico was a mad man last night and I am loving me the rook Geoff Cameron.  He is a Jack of many Trades.  Well done son!  DALE DYNAMO!!!

btw, I have always told the boys and young me I coached over the years one simple understanding.  The game is a cruel game and yet the way to get past poor refs you encounter is to put more balls in the net than your opponent, then he is always eliminated from the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments amigo mio.  I look forward to hearing Dom&#8217;s reactions after the big victory.</p>
<p>Glenn, the North End was a freakin&#8217; moshpit buddy!  We brought the noise and never stopped singing for the 90 minutes. Rico was a mad man last night and I am loving me the rook Geoff Cameron.  He is a Jack of many Trades.  Well done son!  DALE DYNAMO!!!</p>
<p>btw, I have always told the boys and young me I coached over the years one simple understanding.  The game is a cruel game and yet the way to get past poor refs you encounter is to put more balls in the net than your opponent, then he is always eliminated from the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAA here we go. Cry me a freaking river how many times have I seen when we go to Mexico, Costa Rica, Guatamala, Honduras we don&#039;t get the favorable calls there we get the short end of the stick, so we should get the majority of the calls when we play here right? When we got knocked out last year out of both tourney&#039;s never saw the antics out of the Dynamo that I saw from Pachuca (still my favorite Mexican team), but it happens just add&#039;s to the rivalry (oh I am sorry Quaboos adds to the manufactured rivalry). The ref let the game get out of control with the cheap shots Pachuca started taking at the end of the game, our players aren&#039;t just going to take it and neither would the Tuzos if it were to happen to them. Great game, let go ATLANTE!!!

FOREVER ORANGE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAA WAAAAAAAAAAA here we go. Cry me a freaking river how many times have I seen when we go to Mexico, Costa Rica, Guatamala, Honduras we don&#8217;t get the favorable calls there we get the short end of the stick, so we should get the majority of the calls when we play here right? When we got knocked out last year out of both tourney&#8217;s never saw the antics out of the Dynamo that I saw from Pachuca (still my favorite Mexican team), but it happens just add&#8217;s to the rivalry (oh I am sorry Quaboos adds to the manufactured rivalry). The ref let the game get out of control with the cheap shots Pachuca started taking at the end of the game, our players aren&#8217;t just going to take it and neither would the Tuzos if it were to happen to them. Great game, let go ATLANTE!!!</p>
<p>FOREVER ORANGE</p>
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